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I am listening to the Hobbs transcript and it seems odd to me that he is a guy that immediately does a head check of the kids each day he comes in from work, takes his wife to work, continues to look for him with others but doesn't check with his wife to check in with her. Its not consistent with what I have seen from people. It gets dark and they are thinkin to call the police but he still doesn't think he should check with his wife to see if she knew anything about her boy. Like maybe the kids decided to ride to her work or something. Kids can do the darndest things. It just seems like he would have checked with mom for no other reason than to no he had. By him not doing so it really gave him quite a long time to cover his own tracks if he was involved. I know that he can't be showering and looking but it doesn't take long to do that. Did anyone happen to question his x wife, now, to see if she remembers the house/vehicle having mud or anything that would have been tracked from the site. Yes I am having real doubts in his responses. He even has his arms crossed that shows a negative response by the experts whom read body language. I would have raised the roof if my husband wouldn't have let me know my kid wasn't home by the time others were out looking for my son with 2 other boys. That just doesn't sound right at all.
Regarding The West Memphis Judicial System Thought for the day Often times individuals don't like to be criticized for the way they conduct themselves in there professions. You can bring a world of hurt to yourself that if reasoned another way can have had another outcome.
I learned that in college, the hard way. Although nobody is perfect while in their jobs they sure like to think that they are. Could be Bread and Butter, Ego or?
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Precious, to me it just seems like he didn't go ask her because he already knew the answer. Sometimes people don't ask because they already know. That thought also came to me since where she worked wasn't all that far away and he had said before that the child didn't come home to eat dinner (even though green veggies were on his little tummy). If i know boys right, one thing they dont' miss is dinner. Even if it wasn't late, i would have wanted to know if he already ate so i could clean up the kitchen.
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Why would he consider contacting the mother of the step-son he is planning to kill or just killed? IMO, those that have followed the evidence and know who it points to don't have to wonder about this anymore. It's pretty self evident under the blanket of guilt. For those that have doubts of TH's motivation for his actions on that night, I think you may be traveling down an unending road. A sick person such as this does not typically think in the same fashion as most other people. A sociopath has no concept of guilt and wouldn't take others' feelings into consideration when acting out. These people only appear to be fairly normal because they learn at an early age that they are different and they need to pretend so they blend in. It would be fairly difficult (and I would think possibly traumatizing) to actually understand how the mind of a sociopath works in situations like these.
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No kidding. One of my professors stopped me one day and asked me why I looked so serious and not smiling and laughing like usual. I told him I never thought I would stay up all night for a test on serial killers before. you know. you are right. It can mess with your mind and make a person very sad thinking about what someone can do to another person and not even care. It was one reason, when I had to sit and present the case Arthur Shawcross that I decided maybe I didn't want to be a lawyer after all. It can make a woman really paranoid about men. It makes you really wonder where God is in all of it. I had to learn that it isn't God's doing though often times He gets the blame. An attorney friend asked me who I thought needed an attorney. That is how you spend your life. And, then the courts suck when you know you have a guy who is innocent but he is like Jesse. It makes for a different kind of understanding about life for sure. And, I spent several years preparing. it is how I fell into loving the media instead. Because, as we see, when the court fails us, the next thing is to take it to the public court. Thank God for the journalists here.
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I totally second that. Transparency in journalism is a God send. Unfortunately, there is not enough of that these days. Those rogue journalists that tell it like it is and sneak around to get the truth out ... I believe we probably owe a lot more to those people than we could ever realize. That's another reason why I have gained a huge amount or respect for Moriarty. The way she handled TH was wonderful. If only she was one of the WMPD that was involved in this case. We wouldn't be here now. I would pay to see her conduct this same interview on TH. 
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You know. I have been troubled by something Hobbs said and I'm not going to quote him word for word. The idea was that he said "we" as usual and that he thought we gottem off the trail. Well. It is like he himself is referring to a conspiracy to keep Damien, Jason, and Jesse in jail knowing that they are innocent. He seems to be inferring that it is well known by several that they really know who did this and are working together to keep the truth from being found out. Like he has buddies helping him or something. I thought it was very curious that he said that. Sort of like when he said he thought "we" shut Natalie Maines up. I think someone should ask him who all he is talking about. Why would they want to hide the truth? And, what exactly is the truth in his opinion. I would like to hear his version of what his theory is. And, what his timeline is.
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I also think, judging word patterns and specific words used, that Hobbs is a regular poster over on Hoax from something that was said to me over on the CBS site.
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Pally
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...I guess you have to be fluid in understanding the variations of Southern Accents to decipher everything that is said.:>) When I've visited England I've found the same thing there. For instance, the accent from people in Liverpool (the Beatles, etc.) is one of England's versions of America's "Rural/Southern" accent. I live in Memphis, Tn. but grew up in Arkansas. T.H. has a pretty pronounced Arkansas variation..I can understand what he says CLEAR AS A BELL! :>)
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Okay...yes, there is DNA on a strand of hair that is a match to Terry Hobbs (of course, that could easily be the "Secondary Transfer") and someone has sworn that T.H. DID see his stepson that afternoon. But does anyone have a GOOD take on what motive T.H. would have to do somethng this horrendous?...To methodically and brutally murder his own 8 year old stepson and 2 friends? I'd love to hear it! After reviewing this interview (and watching the videos of it.. and various interviews with T.H.) THAT'S what I have trouble with...he just doesn't come across as a diabolical, savage child murderer. "Good Ol' Boy?" "Arkansas Country Boy?" even "Redneck?"....sure! But that doesn't make him a killer. Any more than Damien being Goth and a Wiccan (at the time of the murders) made HIM a killer. Do I believe Damien, Jason & Jesse should have a new trial and the investigation be reopened? Bring in the FBI? ABSOLUTELY 100% ! But I'm not so sure about this "Convicting" T.H. at this point..like so many folks are. It's reeking of the same thing that was done 17 years ago..."Create A Frankenstein Monster"
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does anyone have a GOOD take on what motive T.H. would have to do somethng this horrendous?...To methodically and brutally murder his own 8 year old stepson and 2 friends? I'd love to hear it! First of all, IMO, you're assuming that the murders were "methodical" and unusually "brutal". Let's back-up and go with the opinions of the best and most respected forensic pathologists in the world rather than believing the conclusions of a medical examiner that has yet to pass his board exam...and the WMPD, whom have been proven to be inept and corrupt. There were very few injuries to any of the victims that were inflicted ante-mortem. The boys mostly died as a result of the basilar skull fractures and drowning.....both of which could easily have been caused by a headfirst fall onto a hard surface and subsequent drowning in very shallow water. This scenario would not be either "methodical" or particularly brutal. The "brutal" injuries you speak of were inflicted after death by animal predation. As far as a motive....TH has been accused by multiple family members of sexually and physically abusing Stevie, Amanda, and his first son (Bryan). He has a violent history and the injury to Stevie's penis is very consistent with oral sex having been performed on Stevie in the days preceding the murders (even Peretti agrees). The motive was probably rage, followed by a need to eliminate two witnesses. http://www.wm3blackboard.com/forum/index.php/topic,2386.0.html
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Q: So is it your testimony Mr. Jacoby was with you all night until he went to work; is that your testimony?
Terry Hobbs: Well, he was with Pam -- there was a time he was with Pam, and there was a -- or we might have all been together, yeah, I wouldn’t doubt it. ******************************************************** Terry Hobbs: They were going to go look and see if they was in that manhole
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Pally
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I have read so many conflicting stories about Terry & Pam Hobbs. One side paints Pam's family as whacked out...and the other side paints Terry that way. Of course, there are some factual things about T.H. (shooting his Brother-In-Law(?)..I think it was, etc.) but then there are stories of Pam being unfaithful and T.H. catching her, etc. THANKS 4 YOUR INFO! I'll dig more into that! I'm certainly not saying T.H. SHOULDN'T be a suspect....nor Byers...nor "Mr. Bojangles" (which, I assume, would be an extremely cold trail now) etc. Bottom line is The WM3 should be granted a new trial and these investigations be opened...with a NEW team involved! As far as my comment about brutality...well, however someone would (could) kill an 8 year old child is brutal in and of itself! Methodical? Well, that the victims were stripped and hog-tied and possibly brought from somewhere else and dumped there..seems to be thought out...that it wasn't just "In The Moment/Fly By The Seat Of The Pants" murders. IMO
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Methodical? Well, that the victims were stripped and hog-tied and possibly brought from somewhere else and dumped there..seems to be thought out...that it wasn't just "In The Moment/Fly By The Seat Of The Pants" murders. IMO My belief is that the actual murders were not at all methodical. However, the actions taken to cover-up the crime and move the bodies took a little more thought over a period of several hours.
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Q: So is it your testimony Mr. Jacoby was with you all night until he went to work; is that your testimony?
Terry Hobbs: Well, he was with Pam -- there was a time he was with Pam, and there was a -- or we might have all been together, yeah, I wouldn’t doubt it. ******************************************************** Terry Hobbs: They were going to go look and see if they was in that manhole
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Actually, if you think about it, what kind of murder would it be that couldn't be considered brutal? No murder is a good thing. And, methodical? Actually, who is to say that the thought hadn't crossed the mind of the perp? After all, if you were the type to think about revenge, wouldn't you have thought of ways to do something?
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i think the same way, polly: the guy who did it was, first of all, pissed. again, boys just won't do what he says, out of disrespect, fear, and being on stevie's side of course (the boys) - and i guess, when hobbs had the guitar in hands, at jacoby's, he boiled up right until 1 milimeter under the surface, and when he left alone, something happened period. and i pretty much agree with paid: the act itself was impulsive, the cleaning was not.
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"From the very beginning until this moment state and local officials has reassured me at every turn of the case there has never been one speck of interest in me as a suspect." Terry Hobbs
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