Exhibits 43 - 48

[Miranda]

"Well, Terry told me some day when he was able to go back to Arkansas - because he said that he knows if he goes back over there now he would get killed so he says someday that when was able to go back, he'd take me over there and show me all this gold and diamonds he had buried over there [laughs]."

Help please!  Where is this quote from Sharon Nelson taken?  Has she done a Declaration or Deposition that I somehow missed?

Miranda.

[Paid]

  Q. What was your reputation -- I want you to
 tell me what your reputation was prior to
 November the 26th, 2007, Mr. Hobbs. Taking into
 account your whole life experience and everybody
 that knew you, what was your reputation?

 A.  Pretty screwed up one, ain't it.


They HAD to know this question was going to be asked, probably several times in different ways.  And yet, this is the best he can do.

    I'm certainly no lawyer, but I agree that with all that's riding on Hobbs deposition it's inconceivable that his attorneys didn't prepare him at all.

   It also seems that Hobbs' attorneys were a little intimidated by Davison (backing down when he threatened to call the judge or end the deposition).

    Then there was this comment by Davison complimenting Hobbs' attorney:

Q.   He'll tell you -- and trust me, he's a good
lawyer. He'll tell you when not to answer my questions.
So my question is, what did you mean when you said that?


    .....I've said this before... Since I can't believe Hiland is this incompetent, the only other explanation is that he knew Hobbs' "problems" would be exposed and is actually facilitating the cloud of suspicion.

[Mary]

That being said though the fact of the matter is that for a while it did say on the welcome page to WM3.ORG that Jessie confessed AFTER 12 hours of interrogation...  When I found out how quickly he confessed I felt lied to which made me suspect that all of the arguments for innocence were based on lies.  

Boo's website - West Memphis Three Case for Newbies - still claims that "they subjected him to 12 hours of questioning."

I asked her, oh maybe a year ago, if she had ever considered changing her statement to reflect the truth, but she never got back to me, nor did she change it.

[enuffizenuff]

Mary,

Have you ever considered doing simple math? From the time Jessie entered the station until the time the police had a valid "confession" to execute a search warrant and arrest the other two men, I'm quite certain you'd understand where this info comes from. Or is it just in a nons world that they stop the whole process the minute Jessie confessed?

Perhaps that's the confusion and it really has nothing to do with lies supporters tell, or lies nons tell. Perhaps it's all in how certain people perceive things.  I can recall Jessie being there into the evening, being offered food and a drink.
Sure seems logical to me that he was there approx 12 hours to get his story straight before the WMPD were able to arrest the other two. What do you call that anyways? If they had anything to go on with his original confession, why'd they have to keep holding him and keep interrogating him before the other arrests were authorized?

That's what I thought.

[herb4]

I understand what SGS said.

He's been pretty honest about it, and to his credit, he was one of the first ones out in front on the "Mark Didn't Do It" - "He Couldn't Have" - "Here's Why" bandwagon that most of us have come to realize as true over time. He's a pretty straight up cat and i have no problem with him. Let's give him credit where credit's due. Long before the eDNA evidence came to light and way back when a lot of us suspected Mark, he was way ahead of the curve.

If He's guilty of anything, it's for assuming that since Mark didn't do it then the WM3 must be guilty. Turns out that it looks like a lot of us were wrong. There's more than enough crow to go around and I don't think it serves any of us to say things like who was "lying" and why we believed what we believed at whatever time we knew what we knew. Ultimately, the truth will come out and we should save some of that crow that all of us have come to know the taste of for people like Farm and Jan and Tammy, who consistently refuse to eat it but who will one day have no choice.

I hope they choke on it and ask for hot sauce. Meanwhile, leave SGS alone. He has more balls than a lot of people I can think of around this case. Who amongst on this board hasn't been wrong about something regarding this case? Further, who's admitted as much? SGS has. JMB has. Rugs has. I have. Let's cut the shit and get t the truth and forget about who thought they knew what and when. Especially for those who've already admitted their mistakes and explained them.

[badfish_76]

Bravo, Herb (who is not the same as HerbertWestMD). 

[whitegoddess]

the truth will come out and we should save some of that crow that all of us have come to know the taste of for people like Farm and Jan and Tammy, who consistently refuse to eat it but who will one day have no choice.

I hope they choke on it and ask for hot sauce.

  I remember the taste very well Herb, and so i should! Doesn't stop me from being suspicious of Terry, all things considered regarding him

.....I've said this before... Since I can't believe Hiland is this incompetent, the only other explanation is that he knew Hobbs' "problems" would be exposed and is actually facilitating the cloud of suspicion.

Interesting perspective Paid.

[Stone Groove Studios]

I understand what SGS said.

He's been pretty honest about it, and to his credit, he was one of the first ones out in front on the "Mark Didn't Do It" - "He Couldn't Have" - "Here's Why" bandwagon that most of us have come to realize as true over time. He's a pretty straight up cat and i have no problem with him. Let's give him credit where credit's due. Long before the eDNA evidence came to light and way back when a lot of us suspected Mark, he was way ahead of the curve.

I hope they choke on it and ask for hot sauce. Meanwhile, leave SGS alone. He has more balls than a lot of people I can think of around this case. Who amongst on this board hasn't been wrong about something regarding this case? Further, who's admitted as much? SGS has. JMB has. Rugs has. I have. Let's cut the shit and get t the truth and forget about who thought they knew what and when. Especially for those who've already admitted their mistakes and explained them.

Thanks Herb.  Just so you know though Chase meant me no disrespect.  We are great friends.
As far as Mark, I didn't need DNA to clear him.  His timeframe made it impossible for him to be the murderer.  My beliefs in WM3 Guilt/Innocence had nothing to do with my decision that Mark was innocent.

My temporary belief in WM3 guilt had nothing to do with my beliefs about Mark either.  The big reasons I doubted their innocence were Jessie's multiple post-conviction statements, his claims that he lied about the bindings to throw the cops off, Judge Burnett's unwillingness to promise him anything for his testimony, and the reported malingering/dumbing himself down for court.  Info I learned from Chase, and Mark, was what changed my mind.

I haven't been able to find anything that excludes TH as the perpetrator.  I know that some people have suspected Mark in the past because of his criminal background, and the kid's knife fight situation.  But NONE of Mark's misdeeds comes close to the crap TH is accused of doing.  I find it a funny how some Nons are claiming that the same people who accused Mark back in the day are just switching their sights on to Terry.  But Mark never accused himself so he is at least one totally different accuser.

[Chase456]

Yes, SGS and I are great friends!!!! I think he knows my rant involved the problem I have with nons these days constantly harping on YOU'RE A LIAR, yada yada which is surpassed in inanity only by "WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING" bullshit. I was venting at a whole mindset that seems to assume that anyone that disagrees about something even simple semantics is decried as a LIAR manipulating poor little internet users for money. I KNOW SGS was never part of that crowd. He'd have to have a lobotomy and take jackass lessons to ever qualify for that group.

[Itchycoo]

    .....I've said this before... Since I can't believe Hiland is this incompetent, the only other explanation is that he knew Hobbs' "problems" would be exposed and is actually facilitating the cloud of suspicion.

Anything is possible, of course, but if he didn't take it solely for a possible large fee (which we agree isn't likely), I think it may be slightly more likely that he took the case for reasons related to who was being sued as opposed to trying to deliberately expose Hobbs in any way.  Attorneys do take cases for different reasons.  Suing a Dixie Chick and the subsequent publicity might have had some appeal for this one.  I note that he has been involved in local Republican politics (he ran for State Rep).   If a financial reward isn't the primary goal, I would look next at the possibility of good publicity.   Maybe he didn't win the case, but he put up a good fight against that ol' anti-American, Bush-hating chick.  

I'm merely speculating, of course, and none of this explains Hobbs being totally unprepared for the deposition.  But time is money, and this is especially true for an attorney.  

[nightbreed]

itchy,

what do you think about sharon nelsons affidavit? and how would you normally approach things like this, legally i mean.

[Admin.]

Where is this quote from Sharon Nelson taken?

From a conversation Jacki Byers and myself had with her.

[Admin.]

a locked fireproof box containing a partial mouth plate?

An unusual place to keep it, don't you think?

Perhaps Hobbs was unsure as to whether he'd bitten one of the boys or not?

[Justice]

Where can Amanda's journals be reviewed?

[FishmongerDave]

Where can Amanda's journals be reviewed?

It's in the attachments to the summary judgment motion - someone else will have to give you the link, though.


PaidFer - Just noticed your statement about Hobbs being prepped for his deposition.  It's hard to prep someone for a dep -- questioner can ask pretty much anything that isn't privileged.  I remember seeing an argument over the issue early on in the deps where one of the attorneys threatened to call a judge (which is SOP if improper dep objections are raised) and accused TH's attorney of coaching him.  (I actually learned something from it and was harsher than I usually am in a recent dep)

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